Curse

Painbringer · May 22, 2007, 02:36 PM // 14:36

Please review my PVE build

[skill]Fevered Dreams[/skill] [skill]Apply Poison[/skill] [skill]Concussion shot[/skill] [skill]Screaming Shot[/skill] [skill]Pin Down[/skill] [skill]Throw Dirt[/skill] [skill]Troll Unguent[/skill] [skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Ranger/Mesmer
Marksmanship 11+3
Expertise 10+1
Illusion 6
Wilderness 8+1

Zealous or Vampiric Short Bow

Let know your thoughts this is just a build to use for mass degeneration while exploring / questing

Fallen Nephilim · May 22, 2007, 03:02 PM // 15:02

in a word: Energy

Epinephrine · May 22, 2007, 04:11 PM // 16:11

I run the same bar, but with 5 Illusion, 10+3 expertise, 10+1 wilderness and 10+2 marksmanship IIRC

Also, I have a variety of recurves - silencing, barbed, poisonous and crippling, depending on which one needs to last longest - recurve makes hitting with the concussion shot more reliable.

GoodEnoughForMe · May 22, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Have you ran this at all? The skills certainly look nice on paper, but unless you have an expertise of 200, I don't see this being run for long without running out of energy.

Epinephrine · May 22, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Runs fine the way I use it. You don't need to use the skills often. Ideally you actually allow conditions to expire before renewing, since it only spreads new conditions.

Painbringer · May 22, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Main thing like stated above is to let the conditions do there work. Apply poison wait for energy to gain a little hex target then hit him with screaming shot. As long as nothing removes the hex you should at least apply two conditions to all foes in that mob.

SnipiousMax · May 22, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine

Also, I have a variety of recurves - silencing, barbed, poisonous and crippling, depending on which one needs to last longest - recurve makes hitting with the concussion shot more reliable.

Out of curiousity... Does Fevered Dreams cause the duration to increase twice like it does (did?) with plauge touch when using weapon mods?

Amy Awien · May 22, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50

I would think that when the reapplication does not 'pass' a weapon modifier - and my guess it is the victims weapon that counts - there would be no increase in duration.

Epinephrine · May 22, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

Out of curiousity... Does Fevered Dreams cause the duration to increase twice like it does (did?) with plauge touch when using weapon mods?

Yes, astute of you

As per the talk page: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talk:Fevered_Dreams

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Originally Posted by Avatarian 86 23:29, 27 December 2006 (CST) on Guildwiki

Condition extending

tested with apply poison: poison is extended on the first target, then that extended duration is extended again when applied to the surrounding enemies. so, if you're using a condition-extending bow string, said condition is extended twice for the surrounding targets, but only once for the target with fevered dreams.

Although, I must admit, it's given me a new idea - I'm going to test using Hypochondria in conjunction with it now - it may allow extending durations a great deal:

The original duration (D) *1.33 is applied originally to the target, while it's D*(1.33)^2 to the surrounding guys - but Hypochondria will apply the 1.33^2 duration to the main target, possibly re-extended by 1.33 (making 1.33^3) and then further by 1.33 (making 1.33^4)

Curious about this now

ArKaiN · May 22, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

I'm not doing the math, but before you get too giddy with anticipation, you should remember that the condition cap is 30s (and that increasing durations 33% twice means an increase of ~77% already)

Epinephrine · May 22, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by ArKaiN

I'm not doing the math, but before you get too giddy with anticipation, you should remember that the condition cap is 30s (and that increasing durations 33% twice means an increase of ~77% already)

Sure, but being able to reset the timer via Hypochondria and extending it is worthwhile.

It's probably academic, since I don't know if Hypochondria still removes conditions on the original target - and unless the condition were new it wouldn't trigger Fevered Dreams - so you'd only get a potential 33% increase, not worth a slot most likely...